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Offline runeazn

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So I finally figured out after much testing how to install it properly.

1. Uninstall all programs for linking, student TI nspire software can stay as it doesnt give any problems, for me atleast, uninstall for more chance of succession.
2. Reboot.
3. Install TiLP
4. go to device manager and go to libusb, your device not there go to 5, if it is go straight to 8. (Step 5-7 are not a must, but i recommend them.)
5.uninstall TI educational device or unknown device at the usb bus controllers
6. reboot
7. let it install the ti educational driver.
8. Go back to device manager. Click update drivers on the Ti educational device/unknown device.
9. Browse manually for drivers, and then let me pick from a list on my computer.
10. you see the educational driver and under there TI-84+ silver driver! Yes thats the one we need.
11. try to install it, it fails right? Reboot and before it is starting windows hit F8, and click on disable digital driver signing enforcement.
12. Redo step 8+9
13. Start TiLP, go to change device(shortcut CTRL+D).
14. select  TI84+ click on the magnifier to search, change port number to the port number it shows.
15. change time-out to 10 seconds(fill in 10000) if you get the error, device timeout, which you almost certainly will get as that is the problem we get at ti connect, unable to communicate.
16. viola you got it working :)

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This procedure looks like it should work with TILP II releases up to 1.15, thanks for taking the time to write it up.

However, note that it's already effectively obsolete :)
The latest beta builds of TILP II 1.16, hosted on lpg.ticalc.org and linked to from topics on Omnimaga and Cemetech, use a signed driver with filter driver capability. This means that not only it's no longer necessary to disable digital driver signing enforcement, but also that TILP II 1.16 (libticables), TI-Connect and TINCS/TINCLS can be installed side by side.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2011, 09:36:17 am by Lionel Debroux »
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OMFG
ALLL THE TROUBLE I GONE TROUGH 2 days and the threads i bumped up omg.

ah well  why did nobody tell me :(

but the problem didnt lie in the driver it was the timeout that caused the problem
« Last Edit: August 17, 2011, 09:49:23 am by runeazn »

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You should set anything you are having problems with to run in XP SP3 compatibility mode, works for me every time.

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that didnt work i tried ;)

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This modified guide is for all versions of Windows, especially for people with slow boot times and don't want to reboot so many times...  ;D
If you don't have TI-Connect installed, skip the first step.
  • Uninstall TI-Connect
  • Install TiLP
  • Connect your Ti-84+/SE
  • Open Device Manager, can be found in XP by right clicking "My Computer" in the Start menu, then "Manage".
  • Once in the Device Manager, expand the "Universal Serial Bus Controllers" section and check if there is anything that says "TI Educational Handheld Device".
  • Right click "TI Educational Handheld Device" and click "Update Driver".
  • Without closing anything, click Start>Run and type in "gpedit.msc" to open up Group Policy Editor.
  • In GPE, GoTo User Configuration>Administrative Templates>System and double click on the item called "Code signing for device drivers". Then click "enable" and "Ignore" in the drop down list below.
  • Click Apply and OK" then close Group Policy Editor
  • Go back to the Device Manager Update Driver window.
  • Click "Install from a specific list or location, then click don't search, I will choose the driver to install.
  • You will see "TI Educational Handheld Device" and "TI-84 Plus (Silver Edition) USB Device", click on the second one mentioned (TI-84 Plus (Silver Edition) USB Device) and Install.
  • Check if TILP connects now, and if not reboot.
TILP should now be able to detect your device.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2012, 04:50:08 pm by PikachuCLS »

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Thanks for that detailed procedure, but as hinted in reply #1, it has been obsolete for more than a year ;)

TILP II 1.16 and newer can be installed side by side with TI-Connect, TINCS and TINCLS, in such a way that both TI's software and TILP can be in a working state at a given point in time on a given computer (without having to uninstall the other one). Obviously, they cannot communicate simultaneously with a given calculator.
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TILP II 1.16 and newer can be installed side by side with TI-Connect

They now can?? O.O  *.* :crazy: :o :hyper:

Wow I need to check new posts more often. I might install TiLP at one point for the first time in a few years. The reason why i never installed it on this computer was that back then, some people who previously tried TI-Connect with success, then switched to TiLP after uninstalling and TiLP wouldn't work properly, then when uninstalling it to install TI-Connect, TI-Connect would never work again. I didn't want to risk ruining this TI-Connect install at a time I only had one decently working computer and was heavily testing Axe programs. D:

Also back then, the GTK/GTK+/whatever conflicts with TiEmu/TilEm were quite annoying x.x (I had to constantly switch between runtime versions if I was using TiLP and TiEmu back and forth, which was quite ironic considering both softwares were from the very same team).
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Thanks for that detailed procedure, but as hinted in reply #1, it has been obsolete for more than a year ;)
Really? I was using TILP 1.16 and I had to disable driver signing in order to access TI84+ SE Driver. Perhaps it's just WinXP  ;D

And just to clarify on your quote, TI-Connect setup has no option to not install the driver, so it screws everything up. Is there any way to disable that or will TI-Connect always have to be installed first for parallel to work?

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AFAICT (and as far as the libusb site / documentation says, IIRC), the "missing signature" warning message is bogus. TILP (libticables) uses libusb, which contains an embedded signature.
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I don't know enough to know what's going on or what's not working.  I have a TI-84+ (no idea if it's silver edition or not), and I can't get TiLP to connect to it.

Laptop is Windows 7 64 bit Pro
I had the TI software on there first, but uninstalled it when i found out that it wouldn't do what I wanted (suck a ROM out of my calculator).

Right now the calculator shows up as Other Devices, TI-84 Plus in Device manager.  I've tried searching the TiLP and GTK folders for drivers and neither windows nor I can find them.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled several times, no change.

When TiLP starts up, it does not see the calculator, nor does the "ready?" seem ready (ironic eh?).

All the documentation refers to things that I can't find explanations on.  I have a regular USB mini cable since the calculator has a builtin USB port.

This guide seems comprehensive, but I can't make it work.

How can I suck a ROM image out of my calculator on Windows 7 64 bit?

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From experience with calc linking problems, if reading the instructions carefully before installing and following the troubleshooting/FAQ section step-by-step still doesn't solve the issues, the only solution is to reformat your computer or buy a new one. (Although even then, if the calc link port is defective, then nothing can be done) At school I remember only 1 computer out of two, running the exact same hard drive content (via Deep Freeze) over the entire network, same hardware between each computer, linking softwares of any sort would actually work.

Maybe Lionel or other people got alternate solutions, though.
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Right now the calculator shows up as Other Devices, TI-84 Plus in Device manager
"Other devices" reads like it's not the appropriate driver (which would be under "Libusb-win32 devices"), and then, it's natural if TILP cannot see your calculator ;)
Did you plug the calculator to the computer before installing TI-Connect or TILP ? In that situation, Windows installs its own, wrong driver for the device (neither TI-Connect, nor TILP can do anything with it), and then, you need to manually change the driver to TILP's driver (libusb0.dll/.sys, or the .inf file in Program Files (x86)\{Common Files}\LPG Shared\drivers\usb).
It's important to know whether your 84+ is a regular one or a Silver Edition: those have different USB PIDs. Silver Edition calcs have part of the top side (where you plug cables) near-white.
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Lionel could you help me out with my CX? I private messaged you

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See your PMs on TI-Planet, they contain a reply to the topic you created, then deleted, on TI-Planet ;)
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