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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2011, 04:53:03 pm »
wait, what are Trial Apps?
Back when you used to have to pay for apps, people would make apps that would only run a certain number of times and then delete themselves.
(These are also the type of Apps that Axe makes.)
AXE doesn't make permanent apps? (i've never made an app)
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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2011, 04:54:25 pm »
wait, what are Trial Apps?
Back when you used to have to pay for apps, people would make apps that would only run a certain number of times and then delete themselves.
(These are also the type of Apps that Axe makes.)
AXE doesn't make permanent apps? (i've never made an app)
You have to send them to the computer, sign them, and send them back in order to make them stay longer than 16ish runs.

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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2011, 06:13:09 pm »
I did not know that. (about axe)
Someone I know just got a new calc, with 1.0.3, and now he can downgrade :w00t: Great job!

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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2011, 10:57:25 pm »
I knew about the whole signing issue, but I didn't know that was why it mattered. :P

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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2011, 11:08:03 pm »
I wonder how TI will respond to the Boot 1.03 protection bypassing/breaking?
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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2011, 11:10:56 pm »
Maybe they'll give up and give us the nspire keys! :P

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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2011, 11:15:33 pm »
Don't count on it. After all they upgraded to 2048 bit keys for the CX :P

EDIT: Actually as a gift they will probably upgrade to 4096 bit keys <_<.
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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2011, 11:50:02 am »
And it will take four hours to boot up the nspire.

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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2011, 12:49:26 pm »
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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2011, 12:50:36 pm »
so the CX won't startup untill the end of a test :P
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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2011, 08:34:56 pm »
so the CX won't startup untill the end of a test :P
lol O0

My vote is for unbreakable 1 bit keys...

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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2011, 09:53:59 pm »
And it will take four hours to boot up the nspire.
I already notice the CX takes a friggin long while to boot actually. I think it takes 2x longer than my clickpad. X.x
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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2011, 10:01:53 pm »
And it will take four hours to boot up the nspire.
I already notice the CX takes a friggin long while to boot actually. I think it takes 2x longer than my clickpad. X.x
I remember first time I turned on the prizm, I was like "Great, this is always going to happen?"
just the first time btw (:

Awesome program btw.  I'll keep this thread in mind ;D
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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2011, 10:02:27 pm »
READ THIS, TI SPIES!

And it will take four hours to boot up the nspire.
I already notice the CX takes a friggin long while to boot actually. I think it takes 2x longer than my clickpad. X.x
They are focusing too much on blocking us than their main target -- students.  Students and teachers want a fast calculator that can boot up quickly and calculate expressions within fractions of a second.  Most students, even on the relatively open 83+ family, did not play games.  Those who do play games are tech savvy enough to find an exploit or use an already existing program.  TI is shooting themselves in the foot: they are making it harder for students to use and pushing hobbyists away from TI brand calculators.  
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Re: Signed Operating Systems - Who needs them?
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2011, 10:05:32 pm »
Yeah the boot time annoys me. Granted, you can disable hibernation mode so the boot never happens, but then your battery get drained faster while the calc is turned OFF.

On the Prizm there isn't even a boot delay, except you have to configure the calc the first time you turn in ON. The only delay is when turning it OFF, where you see the CASIO logo for about 3 seconds.
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