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TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« on: April 10, 2013, 03:29:32 pm »
In a previous news item, you could discover ahead of time on TI-Planet the latest beta of the new TI-Connect 4.0 linking software, adding support for the 84+ C Silver Edition calculator to the existing TI-Z80 and TI-68k support.

More precisely, the showcased version was 4.0.0.209.

Tonight, the final version, TI-Connect 4.0.0.218 was released. It represents the first update of the TI-Connect software for Windows since 2010!


You can now transfer images and install OS upgrades to your 84+ C Silver Edition from Windows!
(with the official software, that is - the third-party TILP II 1.17 software, which was recently published, already enabled doing it, provided the .8c? files were renamed to .8x?)


One other thing :

For a few days already, you were able to download, in exclusivity on TI-Planet, the OS v4.0 for the TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition!

Indeed, a little tool by Critor was capable to create installable OS files from a ROM image of the calculator.

In the previous news, TI-Connect 4.0 for Windows just came out.
And like all the Windows versions of TI-Connect, it comes with a bundle of device-installable OS files, and here with the OS 4.0 for the brand new TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition.

After an hexadecimal comparison of the files ignoring the headers, we can see that this OS 4.0's code is 100% identical that the one running on my sample TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition.

Consequently, the OS bundled with TI-Connect 4.0 also suffers from all the bugs we noticed in our review some weeks ago. :(

The same goes for the 4.0 OS file available on TI's site, which is the same as TI-Connect 4.0 's one :(


Enjoy!


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TI-Connect 4.0.0.218 (English version)
OS 4.0 - TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition


Source : http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11551&lang=en and http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11550&lang=en
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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2013, 03:33:35 pm »
adriweb I thought it was cancelled and that they would require us to spend an extra $1200-3000 on a mac as a secret attempt to finance Apple? O.O

Just kidding, I am glad this is out. Since 2007, TI adopted a strategy that involves releasing calcs before everything is even ready at all. Eg the Nspire lacked BASIC language entirely in its first OSes and the 84+CSE had no official way for transfering programs using Windows/Mac. Even the emulator isn't out.
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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2013, 03:36:33 pm »
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Since 2007, TI adopted a strategy that involves releasing calcs before everything is even ready at all. Eg the Nspire lacked BASIC language entirely in its first OSes and the 84+CSE had no official way for transfering programs using Windows/Mac.
Yeah, it's unbelievable TILP provided working, partial 84+CSE support to Windows users several weeks before official software did.
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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2013, 03:40:12 pm »
Indeed. It seems they want to rush things just to get extra sales faster in case another company releases something new for school year. But again doing this ensures that most international stores will carry the item in stock in time for school year.

The TI-84+CSE had known bugs for months before official release, yet they aren't fixed in the current OS. Kerm let them know about them, but are they even gonna bother fixing bugs if they are not related to educational stuff? (eg Pt-On colors don't work, but they are mostly used in games, not math)

The PRIZM suffered from the exact same problem with Locate (took 1 year to fix).

The Nspire had numerous bugs in its initial OS that were fixed, but new bugs arrive everytime and to date, both the Nspire and 84+ line has bugs that have been around for half a decade.

Because of this, I wonder if TI-Connect 4.0 will even work lol. Also is Windows 98, 2000 and XP supported by TI-Connect 4.0?
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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2013, 04:02:31 pm »
Nice to see they got around to this. It's still pretty early too as the calc hasn't seen a "wide release" yet.

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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 04:20:17 pm »
One thing to point out:

Since SourceCoder saves 84C pictures with 84+ extensions (8xi instead of 8ci), you must manually change the extension. However don't do this from File->Open in TI-Connect, else the file disappears, so you have to close File->Open then reopen it again.

Also TI-Connect won't let you convert images to pictures, you can only convert to background images. So if you want pictures you need to use SourceCoder. The conversion in SourceCoder is not too bad: Just make sure that colors are saturated enough, else they become gray (eg the yellow in the Illusiat text below):

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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 05:05:14 pm »
You and your illusiat ^^
So, what about OS3? Why didn't they ever do that?

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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2013, 05:09:58 pm »
Lol that pic is kinda old. It was made back when I thought that bg images were at that resolution. Here's the original by the way:



Not sure about OS 3.0. I'm thinking that they might have wanted to avoid confusion with the Nspire OSes.
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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2013, 09:14:11 pm »
Here's a screenshot of TI Device Explorer.
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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2013, 10:59:26 pm »
Lol fail indeed. I haven't tried this one though so I can't tell. Sending stuff to my calc seems to work, though (I tried via send to TI device, with pics, apps, nethams and programs.)
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2013, 11:11:24 pm »
That just shows how good TI is at making software ^^
BTW, does TILP already support the new file formats?

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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2013, 01:44:36 am »
The brand-new .8ca format is not supported yet by the libraries underlying TILP, but the .8ci, .8ck and .8cu are, provided one renames them to .8xi, .8xk and .8xu (for now, that will be improved).
TILP II 1.17 and the latest release candidates thereof effectively provided Windows users working, partial 84+CSE support before official software did. It's not the first time TILP (libti*) is ahead of official software for a short while: in the summer of 2011, I added CX screenshot support and CX OS upgrade support to what became TILP II 1.16. The contemporary TINCLS 1.4 didn't support them.
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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2013, 01:46:21 am »
Do you think there will ever be a way to dump a ROM via direct USB?
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2013, 02:08:27 am »
Sure: we've already had ASM programs running for a while, but the DBUS and DUSB ROM dumpers were not ported for the 84+CSE yet.
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Re: TI-Connect 4.0 and 84C OS 4.0 released !
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2013, 02:11:53 am »
Ok, just making sure that things like ROM8x are still possible.
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