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[IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« on: November 26, 2010, 03:57:30 pm »
1.  ok, all nspire owners with the 84+key pad know about the affects of upgrading your regular nspire os with the 84+ emulation.

2.  You probabally also know about the inability to transfer a new os to the 84+ emulation w/o upgrading your nspire os.
3.  Ram pages.  We are confined to three...


Ok. I am tring to be clear but i got up early for black friday....

2.  Is there any way to write an assembly program, either for the nspire or the 84+ emulation, that will enable os upgrades independent to the nspire operating system?
3.  Is there anyway to unlock the nspires memory to get extra ram pages for the 84+?


Note: sorry for being unclear.
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2010, 03:58:38 pm »
Quote from: happybobjr on November 26, 2010, 03:57:30 pm
1.  ok, all nspire owners with the 84+key pad know about the affects of upgrading your regular nspire os with the 84+ emulation.

2.  You probabally also know about the inability to transfer a new os to the 84+ emulation w/o upgrading your nspire os.
3.  Ram pages.  We are confined to three...


Ok. I am tring to be clear but i got up early for black friday....

2.  Is there any way to write an assembly program, either for the nspire or the 84+ emulation, that will enable os upgrades independent to the nspire operating system?
3.  Is there anyway to unlock the nspires memory to get extra ram pages for the 84+?


Note: sorry for being unclear.

That would be cool, but very hard, since we can't even upload OSs to the NSpire, I think, so a patch? That would be really hard
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2010, 03:59:23 pm »
Happybob, an interesting idea. Sadly, the only thing I know about that could answer this question is calc84's in-the-works emulator.
Others may know more than me ;D
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2010, 04:00:45 pm »
maybe just an asm program with the power of ndless.
well. If you can edit the os, then a patch wouldn't be terrible, but i don't think thats where the answer would lie.

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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2010, 04:01:11 pm »
Well, instead of trying to improve the 84+ emulation already on the Nspire, I think it would be easier to simply write a new 84+ emulator that can be run with Ndless to use any rom image.

I don't know if it would be impossible to do, but I would think it would be difficult to change TI's built in emulator.
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2010, 04:01:57 pm »
Quote from: happybobjr on November 26, 2010, 04:00:45 pm
maybe just an asm program with the power of ndless.
well. If you can edit the os, then a patch wouldn't be terrible, but i don't think thats where the answer would lie.

Theorically, I have no idea of how ndless works, it's like a .c file that installs it, right?
I just have no idea how it theorically works and would like to know.


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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2010, 04:03:37 pm »
Quote from: calcdude84se on November 26, 2010, 03:59:23 pm
Happybob, an interesting idea. Sadly, the only thing I know about that could answer this question is calc84's in-the-works emulator.
Others may know more than me ;D
(Emphasis added) A 3rd-party emulator is probably the easiest (though it still isn't easy) route to go on this, as apcalc said.
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2010, 04:04:20 pm »
Quote from: apcalc on November 26, 2010, 04:01:11 pm
Well, instead of trying to improve the 84+ emulation already on the Nspire, I think it would be easier to simply write a new 84+ emulator that can be run with Ndless to use any rom image.

I don't know if it would be impossible to do, but I would think it would be difficult to change TI's built in emulator.

That is a great thought.
but would all the asm commands possible with the nspire be enough  for the 84+ though?
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2010, 04:05:16 pm »
Quote from: apcalc on November 26, 2010, 04:01:11 pm
Well, instead of trying to improve the 84+ emulation already on the Nspire, I think it would be easier to simply write a new 84+ emulator that can be run with Ndless to use any rom image.

I don't know if it would be impossible to do, but I would think it would be difficult to change TI's built in emulator.

Yeah Yeah! We could make a program for 84+ keypad that changed definitions of the calculator itself, including other keypads. AWESOME idea!
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2010, 04:07:45 pm »
Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2010, 04:08:09 pm »
Quote from: calc84maniac on November 26, 2010, 04:07:45 pm
Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.

Yeah, but why 83+ instead of 84+?
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2010, 04:10:00 pm »
He probably means a more generic 83+ Series emulator. Or, even if he only creates an 83+ one, it won't be too difficult to expand it to one for the full series.
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2010, 04:11:29 pm »
Quote from: ScoutDavid on November 26, 2010, 04:05:16 pm
Quote from: apcalc on November 26, 2010, 04:01:11 pm
Well, instead of trying to improve the 84+ emulation already on the Nspire, I think it would be easier to simply write a new 84+ emulator that can be run with Ndless to use any rom image.

I don't know if it would be impossible to do, but I would think it would be difficult to change TI's built in emulator.

Yeah Yeah! We could make a program for 84+ keypad that changed definitions of the calculator itself, including other keypads. AWESOME idea!

What?  This program would technically be for the Nspire, but it could be run with the 84+ keypad.  It would be very hard to program this directly to the 84+ keypad.

Quote from: calc84maniac on November 26, 2010, 04:07:45 pm
Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.

* apcalc wants calc84 to make an 89 emulator before an 83+ one. :(
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2010, 04:11:58 pm »
Yeah, no point in starting with 84+, which has quite a bit more hardware to emulate.
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Re: [IDEA/Random thought] 84+ emu on nspire
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2010, 04:12:33 pm »
Quote from: calc84maniac on November 26, 2010, 04:07:45 pm
Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.

wait, you already started that as a project?, you are starting now?, or you are stating what should be done first?
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