Author Topic: Ti-NSpire getkey function. (Read 17009 times)

Stefan Bauwens · « **on:** February 25, 2011, 09:41:31 am »

I don't think this will help someone who wants to use the getkey command on an nspire but because I was interested to know if there would be an update(ever) to have the getket command, I contacted TI.

This is what I wrote:

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---- Original Message ----
Country: BelgiumDutch
Name: Stefan
Email: [email protected]
Type of Service: CalcOrProcedure
Computer Software Setup/Usage:
Product Group: GrphHH
Product: TI-Nspire with ClickPad
Purchase Time: nomonth/noyearselected
Customer Type: NotSelected
Product Serial#:
Computer OS: NotSelected
Comments: HI,

I have a question about the ti-nspire.
I heard that you can program for it. But I also have heard that you can't use the function 'getkey()'.
This is quite important in many programs. I program 68k basic programs and I see this as a very negative point.

Isn't the ti nspire supposed to be more 'advanced' than the 68k calcs?

I would be pleased that in a future update this function can be used.

Waiting for a reply,

Stefan

And this is what I received:

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Dear Stefan,

The TI-Nspire indeed does not have the getkey() programming function.
Actually, the only I/O command is 'disp'.
In general, programming on the TI-Nspire was not meant for real programming, but more for writing small programs requiring one input (entered before program execution) to e.g. automate calculations which need to be done frequently. There are currently no plans to make changes in the programming abilities of the TI-Npsire and TI-Nspire CAS models.

The TI-83/84 Plus series, Voyage 200 and TI-89 Titanium have greater programming capabilities. They do support a full range of I/O commands, hence being the better calculators to suit your needs.

Kind regards,

BERT VERMEIREN

Texas Instruments
Education Technology

This all happened today in case you would want to know.
Also because I'm from Belgium, it looks like the guy is too.(He has a dutch name.)
NOTE: I do not have a ti-nspire, but I was thinking I could ever buy one because I heard it has almost the same language as the 68k family.

I just post this in case any of you guys were interested or were expecting TI to make an update 'fixing' that function.

JosJuice · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2011, 10:35:51 am »

The CX might have better programming capabilities. He specifically said the the Nspire and Nspire CAS don't have that function, so the CX and CX CAS might...

Happybobjr · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2011, 10:39:13 am »

But doesn't os 3.0 go for all 6 types of nspires?

Munchor · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2011, 10:41:44 am »

Quote from: Happybobjr on February 25, 2011, 10:39:13 am

But doesn't os 3.0 go for all 6 types of nspires?

I also thought so, but I hope the CX has better programmign capabilities, like Ndless.

Xeda112358 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2011, 11:48:09 am »

Well TI has plans to eventually add more programming capabilities, but maybe they don't plan to add getKey. getKey really isn't needed to make math programs and functions, though.

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:38:30 pm »

Lets hope they do! Then I would consider buying one(ever).

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #6 on:** February 27, 2011, 07:03:18 am »

I answered the guy with this message:

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Thank you for your answer.
Is there a chance that the ti nspire CX might have this function?

Greetings,

Stefan

If he answers, it'll probably be on monday.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2011, 03:57:06 am »

I hope it does, otherwise then it will be clear they have no plan for it in the future.

Someone should make a parser hook style app that adds extra BASIC commands, like Flib on 68K calcs or Doors CS on z80 calcs (or the discontinued Omnicalc, xLIB and Celtic III apps).

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2011, 05:30:36 am »

Ok, I got an answer:

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Dear Stefan,

With the new upcoming TI-Nspire CX line are made no huge changes in the programming abilities.

I have forwarded your concerns to our product developement team for evaluation. I can't however promise that changes will be made with future updates. Although, if more similar inquiries reach our developement team, they might consider implementing some changes in future updates of the OS.

Kind regards,

BERT VERMEIREN

Texas Instruments
Education Technology

Lets wait and see...

JustCause · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:29:39 am »

Looks like TI's endgame is eliminating calculator games altogether, honestly. I can't really blame them as a company for trying to lock down the CX (refusing to add such a basic command is really the only way I can interpret that), but it's still frustrating. If a truly programmable Nspire CX was produced, odds are it would end up getting widespread distribution via class requirements, and given what's already happened with the existing calculators, would see epic development. Look at what's happened with the 83 series.

It's nice to see that you got a response. Maybe TI does care a little.

Lionel Debroux · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:55:08 am »

No surprise here, and we didn't expect any better from ti-doesn't-care anyway...

TIfanx1999 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:56:39 am »

@Justcause: Well, in Belgium at least.

In my oppinon; the Nspire CX would likely do equally well with or without better programming. Most educators don't seem to much concerned or enticed by such things. It also doesn't help that TI has a considerable hold on the market.

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2011, 09:01:21 am »

Wouldn't more people buy ti nspires if it had more program capabilities?
TI's gotto think about that.

JustCause · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:00:57 am »

Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on February 28, 2011, 09:01:21 am

Wouldn't more people buy ti nspires if it had more program capabilities?
TI's gotto think about that.

The CX is the most powerful piece of hardware TI has yet produced. As such, given programming capabilities, there's a chance that teachers may decide its usefulness in the classroom is outweighed by its potential for distraction. This is TI's worst nightmare--their most expensive piece of hardware getting locked out of schools. By making the calc un(reasonably)programmable, they can pretty much avoid this, telling schools that "it's better than the 83 series because you can't game on it" or something.

As a community, calculator programmers and calculator gamers are a very small percentage, and one without much power at that (given that most of us are school-age and can't actually muster the cash to buy the calcs). We were never a part of TI's business strategy.

Am I wrong?

ED:

Quote from: Art_of_camelot on February 28, 2011, 07:56:39 am

In my oppinon; the Nspire CX would likely do equally well with or without better programming. Most educators don't seem to much concerned or enticed by such things.

Well, in Belgium at least.

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2011, 12:25:32 pm »

Mmm. You've got a point.
But to check if the pupils are doing their work, and not playing games couldn't they use this:http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/productDetail/us_nspire_navigator.html?

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