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New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« on: November 26, 2013, 02:43:34 pm »
There is now a new connectivity kit update for the HP 39gII and possibly a firmware update for that calc, according to a post on HP Museum. I cannot link to it here because 1) The link will expire in 2 days and 2) we are not allowed to link to that member (nor his websites) in particular due to past issues. Just go to HP Museum forum at http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/forum.cgi then search for HP 39gII material.

This is not an official release, since HP did not post it on their website yet, but I think I know why, because it doesn't install at all:


(Basically, the error says "Error at file writing level"

In addition to that, I wonder if this will overwrite our HP Prime Connectivity kit install directory?
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Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 03:25:40 pm »
(Basically, the error says "Error at file writing level"
Cough, cough, my French is very lousy, but shouldn't it be "Error at file 'reading' level"? :P
I guess HP is going through a bad phase now with the (too) early Prime release. They still have some very nice calc products, though. I hope they'll fix the Prime issues asap with a new firmware release 'very' soon.

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Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 12:32:16 am »
I think the main issue is both the rushed releases, which seems more and more common among companies to meet deadlines, but that definitively causes many problems: broken softwares, broken video games, broken products. Notice how some game companies go bankrupt after they rush a crappy game into the market.

Communication is also a serious issue with HP, as in the fact that even today, there is barely any info about the Prime on their website. Marketing suffers greatly.

Maybe they should hire KermMartian to do the marketing and properly releasing info out there. Maybe the calc would eventually outsell the Nspire. :P
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Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 08:25:11 am »
This is not an official release, since HP did not post it on their website yet, but I think I know why, because it doesn't install at all:

I'm guessing going to the hp ftp site would be better... ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/calculators/39gII/  (this is the location the automatic check for update will check to try and grab updates)

The reason why it doesn't install most likely is related to the the overwriting problem you mentioned. I am guessing that on some systems having the new prime connkit (which was installed to the same directory) probably is causing issues. Just manually uninstall the old 39gII one first and it will then install fine I expect. This newer 39gII one will install to a different directory so there should be no conflicts.

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Cough, cough, my French is very lousy, but shouldn't it be "Error at file 'reading' level"?

Doubt it. Seems to me the problem is conflicts in the original msi backup files from the first install. It's a standard windows message/translation that comes with install shield so I am guessing it is correct with the sheer number of eyes that have looked at that message before.

As to what will be in that connkit - basically nothing different. The firmware for the calculator has some minor CAS fixes and sepcifically fixes around matrices. However, it is not much of a change nor will it radically improve the system.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2013, 08:56:15 am by timwessman »
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Re: Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2013, 11:18:34 am »
Will both kits eventually detect new firmware updates without requiring to also update the respective calcs' connectivity softwares?

EDIT Tim, I get 403 forbidden on the FTP URL. D:

Also both HP Prime and 39gII connectivity kit I have installed right now says there is no update available at this time.
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Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2013, 04:28:36 pm »
I had a fatal error too (but not the same one) installing the new HP-39gII Connectivity Kit.
No problem after manually removing the old one.

Could you try this DJ_O, and confirm me you have no problem detecting both HP-39gII and HP-Prime without needing to reinstall anything anymore?


It doesn't overwrite the Prime Connectivity Kit.
You're going to have two HP Connectivity Kits and you'll have to run the right one each time.


http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13482&p=153154#p153154


Strangely, the HP-39gII firmware is not in ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/calculators/39gII .
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Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 04:42:45 pm »
Quote from: critor
Strangely, the HP-39gII firmware is not in http://ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/calculators/39gII .
I guess there's a typo in the url. It should be ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/calculators/39gII/ without the leading 'http://' !!
Here you can find this:


Is that what you are looking for?


Edit: I guess i misread it. You were looking for the firmware. Sorry! Now it's done, oh well.
Anyway, its strange that the ftp-url gets prefixed with "http://"? Why is that? ???

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Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2013, 04:54:37 pm »
No firmware, indeed, although the Prime firmware is there. :(
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Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2013, 05:12:50 pm »
I'Ll try when I have some more time. Also I'm glad that the connectivity kits no longer overwrite each others. When I installed the HP Prime one last Summer, it broke the firmware updater for the 39gII.

The firmware rumor comes from the topic title where this was originally found on HP Museum and the downloads link on the user's page (which are both identical). While it's possible that a new firmware is located elsewhere and that it doesn't fix the matrices, it's entirely possible that the person was just prompted to install a new firmware, while in fact it was the November 2012 one (kinda like how the HP Prime kit keeps nagging me every two week about a new update).
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Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2013, 05:47:22 pm »
Yes, but even the 2012 firmware is not in these FTP folders.
If it's true that the Connectivity Kit did prompt for a firmware update, then it must look for it somewhere else.
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Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2013, 09:03:24 pm »
Strangely, the HP-39gII firmware is not in ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/calculators/39gII .

The 39gII firmware comes packaged with the installer. It is not a separate download. So it actually is already on the computer already in the connkit install dir.
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Re: New HP 39gII connectivity kit (Nov 2013)
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2013, 10:13:24 pm »
Ah I see now. Does it mean that we will always have to update our connectivity kit everytime a future firmware is released?
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