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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #75 on: January 19, 2010, 12:08:04 am »
It could be closer to certain TV/anime shows, though. When casting spells or the like, characters felt weaker afterward. And eventually they would even become wasted. In some other games you have Stamina too, when using more powerful attacks it takes longer before you can do any other action afterward
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #76 on: January 19, 2010, 02:31:01 pm »
That looks like a good idea. One thing I'd like to add: when you're hit, stamina should be reduced a little too, in my opinion.
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #77 on: January 19, 2010, 04:11:53 pm »
I like the stamina idea. It looks like I'll have a stamina bar somewhere. ;D

I think it will fall on the right side of the screen.   Once I add this and implement everything else in battle except for animations, I'll show a screenie.
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #78 on: January 20, 2010, 08:34:18 pm »
Alright, here's the stamina bar.  The screenie shows it at 100%, 80%, 60%, 40%, 20% and 0% full.  What do you think?
(Remember that there will be the rest of the battle on the screen, but not in this screenie. :) )

Quote from: mapar007 on January 19, 2010, 02:31:01 pm
That looks like a good idea. One thing I'd like to add: when you're hit, stamina should be reduced a little too, in my opinion.
I like this idea, but you'd lose a lot of stamina over time.
How do you think you should get stamina back if you lose it by being damaged? (I don't want the solution to be "Use an item" :) )

Note: I'll be using Stamina as MP, and not as a speed changing thing on powerful moves.
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #79 on: January 20, 2010, 08:43:10 pm »
wow! nice! I like it!
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #80 on: January 20, 2010, 11:03:43 pm »
Looks nice ^^
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #81 on: January 21, 2010, 12:11:57 am »
How about getting some stamina back after certain time? like may be moving 10 tiles will heal 5 stamina or something...
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #82 on: January 21, 2010, 02:04:21 am »
In Ys II, when you stopped moving, in certain dungeons, your HP gradually refilled. I think Quest 64 did that too. However it was with HP. Just do it with stamina instead maybe?

In Starcraft, IIRC Protoss shields recharges by 1 point every second and Zerg building energy same thing.
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #83 on: January 21, 2010, 09:52:17 am »
I think instead of filling stamina when not moving, wouldn't it be better to fill it up when moving? Since this is RPG and not action-based, players can definitely take advantage of that and leave the calc for 5 min or so, and come back with full stamina to play.
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #84 on: January 21, 2010, 11:55:28 am »
So you mean like Rogue? Then, there should be a command to 'stand still'.
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #85 on: January 21, 2010, 04:27:13 pm »
Quote from: jsj795 on January 21, 2010, 09:52:17 am
I think instead of filling stamina when not moving, wouldn't it be better to fill it up when moving? Since this is RPG and not action-based, players can definitely take advantage of that and leave the calc for 5 min or so, and come back with full stamina to play.
I like that.  I may make it so you regain .5 or so stamina per tile you walk.
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #86 on: January 21, 2010, 06:05:02 pm »
Quote from: jsj795 on January 21, 2010, 09:52:17 am
I think instead of filling stamina when not moving, wouldn't it be better to fill it up when moving? Since this is RPG and not action-based, players can definitely take advantage of that and leave the calc for 5 min or so, and come back with full stamina to play.
oh yeah true about that, unless he decided to have encounters so you have to touch enemies moving around (and appearing) on the map like in Zelda II on the NES
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #87 on: January 21, 2010, 06:14:05 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on January 21, 2010, 06:05:02 pm
...unless he decided to have encounters so you have to touch enemies moving around (and appearing) on the map like in Zelda II on the NES
I had code for that, but decided that I liked it with partners and at twice the speed better. ;D
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #88 on: January 22, 2010, 12:23:44 pm »
The way Chrono Cross (2nd best game ever!) handles its stamina system sounds like it might fit the bill here:
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Another innovative aspect of Chrono Cross is its stamina bar. At the beginning of a battle, each character has seven points of stamina. When a character attacks or uses an Element, stamina is decreased proportionally to the potency of the attack. Stamina slowly recovers when the character defends or when other characters and enemies perform actions in battle. Characters with stamina below one point must wait to take action. Use of an Element reduces the user's stamina bar by seven stamina points; this often means that the user's stamina gauge falls into the negative and the character must wait longer than usual to recover

(I've always wanted to see a game with a similar battle system to Chrono Cross, so I would consider it a uh... personal favor if you did ::))
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Re: Elmgon
« Reply #89 on: January 22, 2010, 03:13:10 pm »
Weren't you able to spam a bunch of attacks then wait, then spam a bunch of others?
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