Author Topic: HACC (Read 20503 times)

JonimusPrime · « **Reply #90 on:** September 04, 2007, 05:00:00 am »

Wow now I have to go and learn C/C++ I didn't even know this project existed.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #91 on:** September 04, 2007, 05:41:00 am »

You've made a pretty nice discovery %)

I am myself waiting for it as well, because maybe this could make porting 83+ games to 89 easier if i ever venture into C again

Halifax · « **Reply #92 on:** September 04, 2007, 06:17:00 am »

Yes it most definitely would. Also why do people group C/C++? C++ is an extension of C, and has many distinguishes differences in my mind. If based of extensions then shouldn't it be B/C/C++/D?

calc84maniac · « **Reply #93 on:** September 04, 2007, 06:19:00 am »

Just so you know, jr is actually faster than jp on average if there's a 50% chance of jumping...

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #94 on:** September 04, 2007, 06:21:00 am »

well technically the 89t can only have C, right? I don't think C++ is really that necessary

Halifax · « **Reply #95 on:** September 04, 2007, 07:36:00 am »

@calc84maniac: I understand that, but what you said was a little flawed. JR has a 25% chance of being faster literally. Which I don't really know if you meant literally though by your post. Anyways this is why the decision is up to the programmer.

Really there is no sense in basing the speed of your routine off of that unless you know that it is more likely to be false which is most definitely not applicable in a compiler!

Also just so you know that logic applies to any command supporting conditionals.

@DJ_Omnimaga: No the TI-89t can have C++ if some builds the compiler. Any system can have C or C++ if some builds the compiler. But the problem is no one wants to build the compiler because frankly parsing C++ sucks and is very very hard.

calc84maniac · « **Reply #96 on:** September 04, 2007, 07:40:00 am »

jr average=(7+12)/2=9.5, jp average=(10+10)/2=10. Assuming that there's about a 50% chance that it will do the jump.

Halifax · « **Reply #97 on:** September 04, 2007, 07:45:00 am »

If that's how you do probability...either way as I said there is no way in basing the speed of your routine off of this and it would be best just to stick with the constant of jp. If worst comes to worst then just specify -dump-intfiles, optimize it to your liking, and then assemble and link it with the rest of your program.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #98 on:** September 04, 2007, 07:56:00 am »

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@DJ_Omnimaga: No the TI-89t can have C++ if some builds the compiler. Any system can have C or C++ if some builds the compiler. But the problem is no one wants to build the compiler because frankly parsing C++ sucks and is very very hard.

yeah i was more talking about the fact there's no compiler that can do it yet, Idk what would be the point to write one tho, because C is alerady good enough and its a calc anyway

Halifax · « **Reply #99 on:** September 04, 2007, 08:00:00 am »

Hmm yes C is fine which is why I advocate for it, but many people say it is easier to program in C++. Although I must admit that C++ is better for engine development and also GUI development, it is nothing that C can't handle.

bfr · « **Reply #100 on:** September 04, 2007, 11:09:00 am »

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QUOTE (Halifax @ 4 Sep, 2007, 11:17)

Yes it most definitely would. Also why do people group C/C++? C++ is an extension of C, and has many distinguishes differences in my mind. If based of extensions then shouldn't it be B/C/C++/D?

For the most part, C++ is backwards-compatible with C, and C and C++ seem to be the most common.

Liazon · « **Reply #101 on:** September 04, 2007, 12:08:00 pm »

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QUOTE (Halifax @ 4 Sep, 2007, 13:45)

If that's how you do probability...either way as I said there is no way in basing the speed of your routine off of this and it would be best just to stick with the constant of jp. If worst comes to worst then just specify -dump-intfiles, optimize it to your liking, and then assemble and link it with the rest of your program.

I agree with you. Sometimes i find just by design, the chance of the jr jumping is less than not jumping by a lot. when that's the case, I usually use jp. the space is no big issue for me atm because i'm doing mainly apps.

btw, i think you might as well try to make a java interpreter/compiler for 8x+ instead of C++. i started learning recently and it's awesome.

Halifax · « **Reply #102 on:** September 04, 2007, 12:34:00 pm »

@bfr: D is also backwards compatible with C and C++, and it holds immense popularity already! Mainly because you can link to C and C++ libraries which means OpenGL, DirectX, SDL, Qt, and every other great library is available for D!

*Halifax

Liazon · « **Reply #103 on:** September 05, 2007, 12:09:00 pm »

^^ sorry i meant 68k lol.

bfr · « **Reply #104 on:** September 05, 2007, 12:14:00 pm »

Halifax: Hmmm, I'll have to get into more D programming. Hacc is going to support Flash applications? That's awesome!

Author Topic: HACC (Read 20503 times)

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