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Re: Midnight
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2011, 11:06:45 am »
Quote from: Scout on May 08, 2011, 08:46:01 am
Soo fast and very good, I also like it how you can shoot for both sides, right?
Yes.

Quote from: Scout on May 08, 2011, 08:46:01 am
Can you shoot up and down?
No.

For the record, the grappling hook shoots in eight directions, as it's controlled with the number pad.
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2011, 06:44:44 pm »
Quote from: Scout on May 08, 2011, 08:46:01 am
Awesome, I still don't get it how you make this things in Basic.

Whenever I see quotes like this, I kind of feel sad that new generations growing with Axe don't know much about the BASIC programming and the speed it can achieve if programmed correctly :(


Back on topic tho

Another freaking awesome game ztrumpet!! Is there some kind of puzzle involved in this game, or will it be more towards fighting the bosses?
« Last Edit: May 08, 2011, 06:47:39 pm by jsj795 »
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Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: Midnight
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2011, 06:50:45 pm »
Quote from: jsj795 on May 08, 2011, 06:44:44 pm
Another freaking awesome game ztrumpet!! Is there some kind of puzzle involved in this game, or will it be more towards fighting the bosses?
It'll be some of each. :)
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2011, 07:29:20 am »
Quote from: ztrumpet on May 08, 2011, 06:50:45 pm
Quote from: jsj795 on May 08, 2011, 06:44:44 pm
Another freaking awesome game ztrumpet!! Is there some kind of puzzle involved in this game, or will it be more towards fighting the bosses?
It'll be some of each. :)

I also noticed killing one of the enemies was really hard, so how many bullets would we have to hit on bosses, 50? :P
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2011, 02:10:38 pm »
This looks awesome! keep it up!
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2011, 04:47:45 pm »
Quote from: Scout on May 09, 2011, 07:29:20 am
Quote from: ztrumpet on May 08, 2011, 06:50:45 pm
Quote from: jsj795 on May 08, 2011, 06:44:44 pm
Another freaking awesome game ztrumpet!! Is there some kind of puzzle involved in this game, or will it be more towards fighting the bosses?
It'll be some of each. :)

I also noticed killing one of the enemies was really hard, so how many bullets would we have to hit on bosses, 50? :P
I don't know, but if you notice, the enemy's HP is in the bottom corner. :)
Note that the enemies so far are just for testing. ;)

Quote from: aeTIos on May 09, 2011, 02:10:38 pm
This looks awesome! keep it up!
Thanks. :)
« Last Edit: May 09, 2011, 04:48:04 pm by ztrumpet »
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2011, 04:52:56 pm »
Quote from: ztrumpet on May 09, 2011, 04:47:45 pm
Quote from: Scout on May 09, 2011, 07:29:20 am
Quote from: ztrumpet on May 08, 2011, 06:50:45 pm
Quote from: jsj795 on May 08, 2011, 06:44:44 pm
Another freaking awesome game ztrumpet!! Is there some kind of puzzle involved in this game, or will it be more towards fighting the bosses?
It'll be some of each. :)

I also noticed killing one of the enemies was really hard, so how many bullets would we have to hit on bosses, 50? :P
I don't know, but if you notice, the enemy's HP is in the bottom corner. :)
Note that the enemies so far are just for testing. ;)

oh so that enemy is for testing? Does that mean there will be multiple enemies per room?
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Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: Midnight
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2011, 04:55:51 pm »
Quote from: jsj795 on May 09, 2011, 04:52:56 pm
Quote from: ztrumpet on May 09, 2011, 04:47:45 pm
Quote from: Scout on May 09, 2011, 07:29:20 am
Quote from: ztrumpet on May 08, 2011, 06:50:45 pm
Quote from: jsj795 on May 08, 2011, 06:44:44 pm
Another freaking awesome game ztrumpet!! Is there some kind of puzzle involved in this game, or will it be more towards fighting the bosses?
It'll be some of each. :)

I also noticed killing one of the enemies was really hard, so how many bullets would we have to hit on bosses, 50? :P
I don't know, but if you notice, the enemy's HP is in the bottom corner. :)
Note that the enemies so far are just for testing. ;)

oh so that enemy is for testing? Does that mean there will be multiple enemies per room?
Nah, just one per room, as just one enemy slows it down a lot, but the bosses will be pretty foreboding... hopefully. ;)
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2011, 05:03:29 pm »
THis looks nice Z, nice use of the dual layer ASCII trick. IS the screenshot running at 6 MHz by the way? Because it seems the character movement is a bit slow, although it might be the screenshot running slower for some reasons. Map loading is incredibly fast.

It also reminds me of Metroid style.

I hope you finish this, Elmgon and the others.
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2011, 05:12:35 pm »
Quote from: DJ_O on May 09, 2011, 05:03:29 pm
THis looks nice Z, nice use of the dual layer ASCII trick. IS the screenshot running at 6 MHz by the way? Because it seems the character movement is a bit slow, although it might be the screenshot running slower for some reasons. Map loading is incredibly fast.
Nope, that's the speed it runs at. ;)  It's a little slow, but I think it's justified when an enemy is going around the screen, along with a bullet.  So, yeah, it's already at 15 mhz.
Quote from: DJ_O on May 09, 2011, 05:03:29 pm
I hope you finish this, Elmgon and the others.
I will. :)  The problem with Elmgon is it's so large that I need a "clean" calc to work on it. :-\
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2011, 05:16:13 pm »
Aah ok, so I guess it will be SE-only? And yeah I saw the bullets moving in real time. Good luck on this project :)
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2011, 05:18:26 pm »
how are enemy movement coded? randomized? does it follow certain pattern?
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Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: Midnight
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2011, 05:19:38 pm »
Quote from: DJ_O on May 09, 2011, 05:16:13 pm
Aah ok, so I guess it will be SE-only?
Midnight could be for speed sake.
As for Elmgon, I like to have no "extra" files on my calc when I'm working on it due to it's huge nature.  It'll like end a bit larger than an 83+'s mem though. :-\

Quote from: jsj795 on May 09, 2011, 05:18:26 pm
how are enemy movement coded? randomized? does it follow certain pattern?
Metroid Pi style:
They have lists and follow along those for movement.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2011, 05:20:22 pm by ztrumpet »
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2011, 06:44:14 pm »
I have some more progress to announce.  I got my grappling hook system to work!



Screenie info:
Note that my Wabbit settings are a little strange; it flickers much less on the actual calc.
Use the Num Pad to shoot the grappling hook.
It'll stop if it hits a wall, a room exit, an enemy, or even a bullet.
This can be used to trap enemies.
Note that I don't have the engine in the main menu code, so there's no way for it to launch the main menu. ;)
Not shown: If you go out of the room and you are caring a block, it goes back to the room it came from, as rooms are Zelda-esq and reset upon leaving them.
(Edit) Oh, and I forgot to mention that it pauses because I hit a wrong key in Wabbit (it's a debugging thing I have in there).

Let me know what you think, oh, and this system only took about 800 bytes of code.  Don't you love Basic's size? ;D
« Last Edit: May 09, 2011, 07:03:23 pm by ztrumpet »
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Re: Midnight
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2011, 07:02:08 pm »
800 bytes :O that's amazing! great job again, I can't wait to play this
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Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*
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