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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1125 on: March 16, 2014, 01:15:05 am »
I noticed that the editor only starts when you edit a program, not when you create one
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1126 on: March 16, 2014, 02:32:32 am »
yeah i noticed that too, could that be fixed?

Is there any way to add some sort of "suspend" to the program editor? Press a button and you're at the homescreen, where you can math out that constant you need, and then press it again and you're back where you were.

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1127 on: March 16, 2014, 07:36:08 am »
Is there any way to add some sort of "suspend" to the program editor? Press a button and you're at the homescreen, where you can math out that constant you need, and then press it again and you're back where you were.
Well for now what you can do is put a random label where you are, quit the editor, make your calculation, come back quickly to your program (by the way, very quickly if you set a shortcut like ON+7 to edit your current project) and jump to that label before removing it.
Also, if you are talking about Axe, nevermind about the value, just put the constant into parentheses, it will be calculated during the compilation, not in the executable. You can also create yourself a custom constant at the beginning of your program.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1128 on: March 16, 2014, 04:47:17 pm »

if thepenguin can make a 2-page app, he can make a 3- or 4-page app too right?


What's the point, then? It seems like all it would do is get rid of two physical applications and their menu entries without saving any archive space, which seems like a lot of work for not much benefit. And then things would start getting messy with multiple versions of zStart for people who do and don't want Omnicalc, people who do and don't want Symbolic, etc.
But everyone wants MirageOS libs, no ? It allows to run every single program (except maybe 20).
I'll probably add it eventually. But, I worry that it might be slightly more difficult than simply doing a copy/paste.



um, i have noticed some significant bugs in the program editor
sometimes when editing a large program from archive, some code gets replaced and the whole screen gets garbled
Does it happen with every large program? If not, could you post an example that will break?



Is there any way to add some sort of "suspend" to the program editor? Press a button and you're at the homescreen, where you can math out that constant you need, and then press it again and you're back where you were.
I've got a better idea. Make ON + MATH return to the last place you were editing.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1129 on: March 16, 2014, 06:43:56 pm »
Wow, such a nice update there ThePenguin ! :D
By the way I always have two calcs (and my phone) with me so I don't have constant issues (pun intended). :P

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1130 on: March 16, 2014, 09:02:43 pm »
Is there any way to add some sort of "suspend" to the program editor? Press a button and you're at the homescreen, where you can math out that constant you need, and then press it again and you're back where you were.
I've got a better idea. Make ON + MATH return to the last place you were editing.
The problem is that the time it takes to rearchive a program is enough to lose the state in your head, and I've got such a gigantic program list that the calculator takes ages to get to anything. (Fast Program Menu would be awfully nice.)
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1131 on: March 17, 2014, 12:24:19 pm »
Let me know what's wrong with it so that I can get an actual release out over spring break.

Things I know are wrong:
2nd + Rcl doesn't work (I don't even think I implemented it)
Some other thing that is wrong: when Axe detects an error and if we press a key other than Clear, zStart is meant to "jump to error" but it just opens the program at the beginning.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1132 on: March 17, 2014, 12:26:13 pm »
Actually, the PRGM menu is much faster since OS 1.14 came out. Beforehand, with 200 programs it took about 4 seconds to scroll down one program in the list. Even 50 programs was still pretty slow (about .5 seconds per scrolling iteration). So in other words, we got our Fast Program Menu in 2002. :P (I agree that something faster would be better, though)
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1133 on: March 17, 2014, 12:27:35 pm »
yeah i noticed that too
and half of my calculus program got corrupt because of the new editor :(
i'm sorry, but every time i try to reproduce it in wabbit it won't work, so i can't help you finding the bug :(
Actually, the PRGM menu is much faster since OS 1.14 came out. Beforehand, with 200 programs it took about 4 seconds to scroll down one program in the list. Even 50 programs was still pretty slow (about .5 seconds per scrolling iteration). So in other words, we got our Fast Program Menu in 2002. :P (I agree that something faster would be better, though)
i just use alpha to skip to the program i want to edit or open
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1134 on: March 17, 2014, 01:25:26 pm »
Actually, the PRGM menu is much faster since OS 1.14 came out. Beforehand, with 200 programs it took about 4 seconds to scroll down one program in the list. Even 50 programs was still pretty slow (about .5 seconds per scrolling iteration). So in other words, we got our Fast Program Menu in 2002. :P (I agree that something faster would be better, though)
i just use alpha to skip to the program i want to edit or open
I use ON+7 to edit my current project (have to set that shortcut everytime my main project changes, but it takes like 10 seconds).

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1135 on: March 24, 2014, 04:35:58 pm »
Could you fix the mathprint bug in zstart?

Heck, is it possible to make a patch for mathprint in the first place?

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1136 on: March 24, 2014, 05:55:54 pm »
There is one. It's called OS 2.43.
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No way to patch Mathprint out but you could disable it.

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1137 on: March 24, 2014, 08:49:03 pm »
You can always disable Math Print while running programs. IIRC, he said somewhere he wasn't going to touch it because it was math print's fault.

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1138 on: March 25, 2014, 03:54:42 pm »
But will it work even with MathPrint disabled? On OS 2.5xMP, some stuff stopped working properly even in CLASSIC mode, such as inverted text in Reuben Quest 2 and ROL2 and Kerm had major issues getting DCS7 compatible with OS 2.53/55 MP (I still remember him ranting about this in SAX shoutbox a few years ago).
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1139 on: March 25, 2014, 04:01:45 pm »
Ah yea that is true, I forgot that some things remain borked even with it disabled. :/