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This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« on: October 05, 2011, 12:38:28 am »
I'm sorry but you can't have the nDoom policy everywhere

read this

http://www.nysenate.gov/files/pdfs/final%20cyberbullying_report_september_2011.pdf

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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 12:44:58 am »
Our government (US) is stupid.
We are screwed.  might i point out the biggest piece of evidence....

when election time comes closer, candidates for elections cyber bully more than all the children in the world put together.
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 12:53:22 am »
no I wouldn't go that far, our government only works because of legalized political conflict

the point is, adults are well, adults and supposedly can take a punch.

I'm no worried about the children anyway

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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 12:54:08 am »
ALL CAPS ARE HARD TO READ!!!
ld a, 0
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 12:54:52 am »
This reminds me of the anti-bullying bill of rights thing  that was recently discussed about on Cemetech http://cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6680 , except that that one was for school bullying.

The problem with the school one was that it could have lead to abuse, such as a kid getting punished just for telling another kid that he sucks even though the other kid is not affected that much but decides to report him because he hates him or something. Of course I think if a student is reported repeatdely for harrassment it should be checked out.

Online the anonymity makes it even harder to stop bullying. It's up to each site management to decide what is allowed on their site and what's not and to make their mind about what is considered as innapropriate or not, then apply their rules on the offenders accordingly to their policies. I think the only time action could be taken against someone for cyberbullying is if that cyberbully won't leave a certain person alone and stalks her everywhere she goes online (or even her IRL activities). However each site that are not ran by government and are private entities (like Omnimaga) are free to have their own rules and even limit free speech and the members are given the privilege of using that site as long as they respect the rules they have to agree with upon registering.

(On a side note the nDoom policy is simply a modified version of Omnimaga rules and its enforcements, where rule 1/2 violation usually lead to an automatic ban for the rest of the day instead of a first warning and an extra rule is temporarily added that disallows people to tell moderators how to run Omnimaga. However in many cases that policy was never really enforced that much and it usually even require many more offenses before someone gets a stronger punishment such as a 1 week ban or permaban. It usually lasts during Summer and late Fall)
« Last Edit: October 05, 2011, 12:56:44 am by DJ_O »


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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 01:01:35 am »
yeah whatever I won't contest nDoom's use at all but I gotta up front say I don't agree with it and it's poorly executed

honestly though it's because you guys hit me with it like the very first day i was here.

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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 01:09:12 am »
Yeah it's fine if you disagree with it. The only thing is you need to make sure to follow the rules (like other members) so you won't face the same thing as another forum member recently (who deliberately tried to start fights with snide remarks). Omnimaga is meant to be free of those after all, so the members who are not fine with this might need to find another forum, even if it means less members for us.

And yeah I think you signed up around when the nDoom policy was re-instated. Generally we also go with post rating, though. A lot of forum members also tries to keep Omnimaga friendly and encourage other people to be friendly, so if we see a forum member gets in the low negatives, then we know there is something wrong, as typically if someone finds a post rude/trollish but it isn't that bad, other people will rate it back up anyway.

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« Last Edit: October 05, 2011, 01:11:25 am by DJ_O »


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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 01:12:41 am »
ALL CAPS ARE HARD TO READ!!!
seconded. :P

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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2011, 01:14:46 am »
Rating is kinda borked cause everything I say is going to get rated by a majority and if I say anything controversial or counter-cultural here it could be interpreted as trolling.... but bad! Back on topic! Yeah! This bill sucks and will never make it.

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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2011, 01:23:14 am »
Also I found this http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111001/00002316160/ny-state-senators-say-weve-got-too-much-free-speech-introduce-bill-to-fix-that.shtml (from Cemetech again)

I seriously hope this never passes. There's a fine line between maybe trying to help desesperate people near suicide that got bullied to extreme extents and making free speech a privilege. This could totally get abused. On an internet sense my fear is if they start trying to take down sites non-stop that bashes governments or even other group of people like Jonas Brothers. I mean for example if a site let continuous anti-Omnimaga bashing/propaganda go on, then it sucks for us and it might be libel/slander, but I don't think law should interfer in what we want to say online where it is allowed. After all, what happens when mass-Omni-bashing occurs elsewhere is that plenty of people stops visiting that site as much and they lose considerable amounts of traffic.

The only time they should interfer is if for example Netham45 decided to plan a terrorist attack on seafood departments of local supermarkets and the planning was done on here (and nothing was done about it by Omni admins).

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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2011, 04:51:17 pm »
Rating is kinda borked cause everything I say is going to get rated by a majority and if I say anything controversial or counter-cultural here it could be interpreted as trolling.... but bad! Back on topic! Yeah! This bill sucks and will never make it.
Borked?

Oh well :p
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2011, 05:02:03 pm »
Personally, I think that they mean well by this, however, they're not going to find a way to accomplish their goals. Both suggestions they gave for what constitutes a punishable offense are terribly inadequate.

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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2011, 05:32:51 pm »
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