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Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« on: March 02, 2014, 10:03:27 pm »
We released an update! Please read below!
UPDATE (3/5 @ 3:40 PM):

Hey guys! This is alberthrocks, your friendly invisible CoT! A couple things to clarify:
  • This is technically Omnimaga v2.0, big upgrade. No kidding, we did a super big upgrade, which is no small feat!
  • That said, the upgrade is a WIP. Call it Omnimaga v2.0 SUPER ALPHA ALPHA ALPHA. Consider the website in alpha right now, with tons of bugs and problems at the moment. We're actively working to fix all of them, but for now, we ask that you bear with us during the upgrade. To repeat, the upgrade is not complete yet!
  • The old theme WILL be back - we've planned this from the start. This is just a temporary theme that we'll continue to tweak to make better until upgrades are complete. Once done, we'll begin working on porting the older theme to v2.0, and bring it back eventually. You'll have the option to pick the current new theme or the old theme once the upgrade is done.
  • We upgraded to protect you from hacking! The reason why we are upgrading this fast is because we were running on an older, unsupported version of SMF. For you guys, that means spambots, super prone to hacking attempts, etc. (Some bots even managed to start going through accounts and steal personal info, like your email!) We upgraded to stop that from happening, as we believe that's really important to protect!
  • Help us help you! Please report issues using this form, not here! We want to make this upgrade a success, so please report issues there! Reporting it on that form helps us more than posting about it here!
  • Finally, please stay put as we work through this - don't harass/complain/etc. until we announce that we're done! We know there are issues, so please use this form to report it! We're working around the clock to fix it, and we'd appreciate if you tell us about the problem! Once we get out of alpha, we'll open up for changes and such. For now, to keep our admins sane, please use the form to tell us about issues and hold tight till its done!
Thanks for reading!
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As many of you know we have been painstakingly working on upgrading smf and we are finally ready to move. You all should have received this mail

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Hi everybody!

So as some of you might know, Omnimaga has long been waiting on an upgrade to SMF2. This upgrade has been in the works for a while and very shortly, the site will be migrated over to SMF2 for everybody to use. This means that there will be a lot of changes, some of which you might not be happy about. There will be a lot of new features, but there will also be some features that either go away for good, or are temporarily gone until we implement them all. For a list of what we know will be broken look here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HeBItJBoBIix_ErZa7wg1UInyLSAVWZ5XRwR3AjC8_Q/pub

Omnimaga has had a downloads section for a long time, but with the upgrade to SMF2 the mod we are using for it will no longer work. The downloads section isn't going completely away though, it will remain in the read only form that was recently introduced on http://www.omnimaga.org/files/. If you want to update files you have in the downloads section after the upgrade, please email the admins with a request.

The old themes will temporarily be unavailable for use and everybody will be stuck with a new theme that is still in the works, but is usable. This new theme will eventually be flushed out better, and the old themes will be ported to the new version of SMF. The current theme is a Work in progress

During the transition to SMF2, the forum will be disabled for a period of up to an hour. When this happens, keep an eye on IRC or our facebook or twitter accounts for updates on the situation.

On behalf of the Omnimaga admins,
Nathaniel "Eeems" van Diepen

The down time will start soon and the site will be on maintenance till it is done. The changes will be different but it will be worth it.


EDIT:

New site is live welcome to SMF 2!!!! Hope you all like what is to come changes and all!
Regards,
The Omnimaga team
« Last Edit: March 06, 2014, 12:22:37 pm by Eeems »

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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2014, 10:57:16 pm »
The upgrade is now done! Have fun with playing with SMF2 everybody :)
Remember to report any issues/bugs you may find to http://ourl.ca/issue. There is a menu option for this under "help".
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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2014, 11:32:43 pm »
Woo, new forum! I guess it's gonna take a while to get used to it...

EDIT: Yep, kind of nice the upgrade happened for the 10th anniversary of the original yAronet forums (March 3rd, 2004) xD
« Last Edit: March 02, 2014, 11:40:12 pm by Juju »

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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2014, 11:48:20 pm »
This is gonna take some getting used to. I feel lost at the moment. :P I'm sure it'll be fine after a while though. :D Also, I'm glad we made the upgrade. It was overdue. :D

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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 12:11:23 am »
At first I wasn't too fond of this new theme because I felt it looked too simple and the lack of any calc element in it (such as faded calc screenshots besides the logo or actual calcs) made it not Omni enough, but now that the entire site and OmnomIRC was brought into it, it seems to look better and I am getting used to it. The simpler theme will actually help people browse the site from slow mobile devices or internet connections. Hopefully it doesn't make Omni look overly serious to younger members, though. :P

As mentionned in the requests form, it would be nice if the Quick Reply box was once again enabled by default, though, and if posting a reply still redirected to the actual topic instead of topic listing.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 12:17:13 am by DJ Omnimaga »

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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2014, 01:09:57 am »
I'll look into getting quick reply enabled by default.

EDIT: You'll have to go re-enable it in your settings to get it to work.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 01:13:24 am by Eeems »
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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2014, 01:49:16 am »
Woo, I wondered when you guys were going to finish this (ever since we found the secret test environment) :P

Quick question though, is the karma system reset or is it possible to recover the karma values from the old version?

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Late last night, Quebec was invaded by a group calling themselves, "Omnimaga". Not much is known about these mysterious people except that they all carried calculators of some kind and they all seemed to converge on one house in particular. Experts estimate that the combined power of their fabled calculators is greater than all the worlds super computers put together. The group seems to be holding out in the home of a certain DJ_O, who the Omnimagians claim to be their founder. Such power has put the world at a standstill with everyone waiting to see what the Omnimagians will do...

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In the wake of these events, we can only ask, Why? Why do these people make these demands, what caused them to gather, and what are their future plans...

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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2014, 01:52:44 am »
The old one was a mod. If I had to guess, I'd say they aren't readily compatible. Not sure though.

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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2014, 02:48:37 am »
Maybe not quickly compatible, but we could do X+/Y- where X is the number of +1s you received and Y the number of -1s you received. That should be possible because the link in my sig used to show a list of all +1s and -1s you received.
Somethings that bugs me, there is no "New Posts" button, or it is well hidden. I don't mean something that shows unread posts, but something that shows recent posts (and not reent posts among unread ones, I want recent posts among all posts).
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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2014, 04:55:01 am »
yay, the updgrade is up :D
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Also: fixed the smileys, it was only a matter of checking the correct box, lol  ::)
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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2014, 05:12:20 am »
First impression thoughts/queries:

1. New Posts:    there should be a quick button, i agree with Hayleia.
2. Attachments: where are the post's attachments? Do the old links still function?
3. Users reading the post: not available?
4. Tutorial:    people used to the old theme, will feel a bit lost, at first. Please write a short how-to, when possible.

I think i can understand the huge amount of work going on behind the scenes and probably it's just a matter of time for people to get used to the new theme looks and functionality.
Thanks for the hard work. :)

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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2014, 05:20:38 am »
The "New Posts" is still (kind of)there, it's just not a button at the moment. On the forum drop down menu at the top go down to "Unread" and click on it. This will show you all posts you haven't read, starting with the most recent. We should still have all atachments, but I don't think they've been moved yet. Bear with us for a bit. :)

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Old Post Links - Will be fixed Table update script just not made yet(id’s have changed)
Downloads section will be read only
Recent posts page - Needs to be polished but is there in a rather sad state
Rules will only be available in english until we can get them re-translated into all the languages they use to be available in.


« Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 05:34:05 am by Art_of_camelot »

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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2014, 07:14:01 am »
The "New Posts" is still (kind of)there, it's just not a button at the moment. On the forum drop down menu at the top go down to "Unread" and click on it. This will show you all posts you haven't read, starting with the most recent.
The thing I was complaining about was the "unread" part. As stated in my previous post, I would like to see all recent posts, not only unread posts among recent ones.
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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2014, 07:30:36 am »
First impression thoughts/queries:

1. New Posts:    there should be a quick button, i agree with Hayleia.
2. Attachments: where are the post's attachments? Do the old links still function?
3. Users reading the post: not available?
4. Tutorial:    people used to the old theme, will feel a bit lost, at first. Please write a short how-to, when possible.

I think i can understand the huge amount of work going on behind the scenes and probably it's just a matter of time for people to get used to the new theme looks and functionality.
Thanks for the hard work. :)

Regarding #2, it looked like there was some issue last night with attachments not being assigned to the correct posts. I assume this means their links won't be the same anymore when fixed, which leads back to the whole post ID offset issue (and regarding those, I totally agree with the early posts in http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13986&p=158328#p158328 , especially that the change and its many inconveniences was forced upon TI community users). This is why I hope that the first line in http://www.omnimaga.org/news/smf-upgrade-the-dawn-of-a-new-era/msg377934/#msg377934 implies that this situation will soon be resolved (at least for the topics made after March 2010 or so, which, I believe, had IDs around 3000, IIRC) Maybe if enough people and not just people from other sites pester the staff about post IDs they will finally change their mind. The good thing, though, is that new links will continue working even if IDs are redirected, because of the new PrettyURL feature.

About #3 I noticed that earlier. I hope it's enabled again in the theme or settings, same for Online users list being 30 minutes instead of 15, so it's easier to know who was online when not paying attention.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 07:37:41 am by DJ Omnimaga »

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Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2014, 08:56:35 am »
E-Mail? I didn't get an E-Mail..
Anyhow, the new theme is like gnome3, looks good but is unusuable.
Usability should be the first goal of any design, not the look.
1. Borders: Left and right, black. Why? If I zoom out they stay the same size.
2. Size + Spacing: On my 1366*768 laptop screen I can barely read the title of the first post without scrolling and at the bottom I can't even see the last post.
3. Where are the new posts listed? I want a short overview what happend while I was away and not a huge list with the posts themselves.
4. Bad post layout: No newline for text after images, look at the news section

I hope I'm the only one who thinks the current theme is total crap compared to the old one.
I'm looking forward to be able to use the old ones again.

And a smaller issue (I'll report on ourl.ca/issue):
OmnomIRC isn't visible on the quick-reply preview page.

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