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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2012, 09:13:03 pm »
yeah, i recall xeda making something that allowed you to store variables on different ram pages that are normally not reachable

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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2012, 09:13:11 pm »
You'd have to rewrite half the OS to support paging RAM. Not impossible, just more work than any of us are apparently willing to do.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2012, 09:13:18 pm »
I was thinking of something along the lines of Pterodactyl, which gives 16 kB on a TI-86 but breaks compatibility with assembly and ASAP programs.

Edit: The 86 already supports RAM paging. That makes it easy.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2012, 09:14:39 pm »
Or we can just develop our own calc.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2012, 09:15:10 pm »
Or we can just develop our own calc.
Many already started, none finished

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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2012, 09:16:21 pm »
Or we can just develop our own calc.

*cough* GlassOS
Why develop a new calc when it's the OS that is the problem here? It's less work.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2012, 09:16:29 pm »
What would happen if we worked as a community?
Or we could just using models with more RAM...
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2012, 09:17:46 pm »
What would happen if we worked as a community?
It'll die
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2012, 09:18:45 pm »
When multiple different people work together on code, it quickly becomes a mess. Especially when it's a whole bunch of people on something as big as an OS.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2012, 09:19:51 pm »
Or it only needs me to have a messy code........
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2012, 09:21:14 pm »
When multiple different people work together on code, it quickly becomes a mess. Especially when it's a whole bunch of people on something as big as an OS.
Of course, TI is an exception. But maybe they're more organized. Organization might be what we need.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2012, 09:22:09 pm »
That would require somebody being in charge of the hole project and all other just following his orders. We didn't manage that yet.

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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2012, 09:31:19 pm »
That would require somebody being in charge of the whole project and all other just following his orders. We didn't manage that yet.

We're also not being paid for it, nor working on it regularly with excellent communication.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2012, 09:32:24 pm »
We're also not being paid for it,
And big projects tend to lose interest, so there isn't even the money interest anymore...

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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2012, 12:11:03 am »
DJ: Flash wear is not a myth ;)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/03/macronix_thermal_annealing_extends_life_of_flash_memory/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Memory_wear
Yeah I was saying since flash wear has been a concern for many years in the TI community, then some random people started saying it was an urban legend because they never saw any calc with which it ever happened. IMHO it's possible that wear can occur on calcs too, since it seems to have happened to a 2009 contest participant.

Or we can just develop our own calc.

*cough* GlassOS
Why develop a new calc when it's the OS that is the problem here? It's less work.
The issue is that even with a third-party OS, the calc is still an overpriced antiquated piece of technology :P The goal of making a new calc would be to offer something more powerful for cheaper.
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