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#### jsj795

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##### TI 89
« on: December 01, 2009, 01:17:24 pm »
I am thinking of buying TI 89, but found out that there are 4 versions of TI 89.
TI 89 and TI 89 titanium, and TI 89 has HW1 & HW2
TI 89 Titanium has HW3 & HW4
I was wondering which one is the best, in terms of coding/games available, and compatible.
It seems like some TI 89T is not compatible with assembly games, and also there is the patch and stuff, but I would like to know for sure before i go out and buy one ^^

Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a$1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a$2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

#### DJ Omnimaga

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 02:59:50 pm »
I got a 89T and generally all games runs fine with HW3Patch. Idk if there's a HW4patch, though. I don't recommend an old TI-89 HW1 because almost nothing runs on it, despite grayscale being better quality.

I also hope you don't quit TLM 83+

#### ztrumpet

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 03:32:43 pm »
I don't think he will quit programing on 83+s, but he just wants another calc.  I'm that way. I asked for an 86 for Christmas.
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#### jsj795

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 07:57:53 pm »
Yeah. and I don't think Im gonna get it in at least a month

Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a$1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a$2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

#### DJ Omnimaga

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 01:45:51 am »
Also I got a 89T and did not like to program much on it to be honest. I only really use it to play games lol

#### jmaster797

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 05:31:01 pm »
I agree with DJ here. My friend let me borrow his 89 to try and make a game on it. Even though I succeeded, I didn't like the way it worked. Call me old fashioned but I prefer the 83/84+
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#### jsj795

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 07:37:06 pm »
really? I thought it would be awesome, with its ability to use pop-up things and BASIC sprite drawings and such. And there are pretty good BASIC games at ti-calc. so i was like, OMG i so want that! Anyway, even if i might not program on it, i still want the calculator, for the gaming experience and math

Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a$1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a$2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

#### Tizona

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 12:10:18 am »
I swapped my 84+ SE for an 89t at the beginning of this year and i love it. the CAS is a really nice feature. I would have to agree that the BASIC programing isn't as good as it was on the 84. however if you are interested in trying C, you could check out tigcc. there is also an oncalc compiler available and it works well in my opinion, though it takes a long time to write anything. I think its a great calculator, definitely improved my math grade.

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 12:12:01 am »
I think there are barely anymore BASIC programmers for the 68k now too. Most people jumps straight to 68k C. Actually, BASIC on the 89 is better structured than on 83+, but since it's harder and not much faster, people don't find it worth learning when there's something just slightly harder but much more faster.

#### jmaster797

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 03:53:47 am »
Now when you say C, does that include C++?
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#### Tizona

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 07:38:05 am »
as far as i know it only supports C, no C++ at this point

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 08:38:57 am »
Yeah, only C. It also got something called ETP Studio and GFA BASIC, two BASIC-like language, but both's doc is only in french and I think they are not finished. The TI-89 also got a Gameboy emulator, altough unlike TI-Boy SE, I think it lacks sound.

Another calc that was great was the TI-86, but the thing I hated was the lack of Flash ROM

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#### jsj795

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 10:15:59 am »
Actually, BASIC on the 89 is better structured than on 83+, but since it's harder and not much faster, people don't find it worth learning when there's something just slightly harder but much more faster.
I thought the hardware was faster in TI 89 than TI 84. Well, and i did try to learn C++ but failed i always fail trying to learn computer language.
I want to take computer programming in college tho as a minor

Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a$1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a$2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

#### Builderboy

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 11:20:32 am »
Well 89 basic has built in sprite manipulation (pictures), user defined variables, and more functions in general I think its still the same-ish speed though.  I've seen some pretty impressive 89 basic games on the archives, but nothing compared to what they can do in asm.

#### Fryedsoft

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##### Re: TI 89
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 03:51:26 pm »
In my opinion, I found that 89 basic isn't harder than 83 basic, it's different.

If you've had an 83 for five years and then move up to the 89 thinking that you can program it just like an 83, you're going to run into issues. I know I did moving from the 85 to 92.

Top 10 Big mistakes that 83/86 -> 89/92 users make:
1 ) use output. Don't. Pxltext does the same thing with the same coordinates and you can show pictures to boot.
2 ) Never check dialogs with OK variable. OK tells the program if you canceled the dialog box or not. half of the games in the ticalc.org 89 basic archive I can crash simply by hitting esc at a dialog box.
3 ) bounds check using if statements. You can do it in one line using min( and max(
4 ) Use Labels. you're better off not using them, of course that's true with any language 83 or otherwise
5 ) Dump everything into one program. 89's hate this. split up repetitive code and code you only use once into subprograms.
6 ) Never use local variables. if it's a simple variable that's only used for that one subroutine, you should local it so it doesn't eat valuable variable space.
7 ) never use matrices or use them for only numbers. They can also store strings directly unlike 83/86 and you can name them like variables.
8 ) avoid pictures. you can have as many as your want, you can put them anywhere on the screen and size them. so why not use them as sprites?
9 ) never set mode or graph settings. One wrong setting will crash your program and you can never count on one calc's setting to be the same as yours.
10 ) never use indirection. #( is easily the most powerful command on the 89. Not using it to your advantage is asking for pain.