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Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« on: September 05, 2014, 05:44:26 pm »
Should everyone learn how to code? Everyone walks around with computers in their pockets, but nobody knows what makes these devices tick. People don't know where software comes from anymore. When something has blinky lights and beepy sounds it's cool, but if it calculates the square root of pi in a 20 byte program it's... interesting I guess?

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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 05:48:54 pm »
Totally agree. In the time of C64 and DOS computers, people at least understood why their PCs froze if they let it do too much, and they understood file systems and stuff. Nowadays people scare away from anything that doesn't look like a box with flashy icons on it.
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 05:48:59 pm »
Well, everyone should at least know what a computer is and how it works. You probably don't need to know how to code for most people, but it should be encouraged, probably just for learning logic, much like how we have philosophy courses.

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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2014, 05:50:05 pm »
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 05:52:45 pm »
I don't feel like everyone has to be able code themselves, but at least know how it's done.
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2014, 05:54:28 pm »
Nope. Else everyone should do sports, learn how a car engine works, play every kind of video game that exists in the world, make out with a girl daily, play music, manage a company finances and politics. It all is about your tastes and ability to learn certain things in particular: If you don't like to code or just don't get it at all no matter how hard you try and get helped, then I don't see why you should force yourself to do so.

I think it doesn't hurt to try, though, in case you like it, and try harder so that you don't spend 3 years doing just quadratic solvers.
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2014, 05:59:50 pm »
It it not the point to be able to code flawlessly or at all, but just understand the basic concept.
If everyone would do that I'll try to understand how engines work, how to play videogames, make out with girls(daily?), play music, manage a company finances and politics.
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2014, 06:08:20 pm »
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2014, 06:10:37 pm »
how to play videogames
This includes NBA Elite 2011, Custer's Revenge, E.T, SNES Super Hockey, Shaq Fu, Action 52, Call of Duty, that one horse riding game, bass fishing games, DDR, RPGs, platformers, everything (regardless of the quality and genre).

Keoni29 wasn't trying to say they should learn every language of programming. Just that they should have a basic sense of how programming works. So I think just a general knowledge, and a bit of experience with some different video games, would be considered comparable.



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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2014, 06:12:36 pm »
Oh I know that. But I was more saying that if everyone in the world should be required to learn the basics of coding regardless of if they hate computers and electronics, then it's kind of unfair when people aren't required to learn to do sports and forced to get a girlfriend.
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2014, 06:14:40 pm »
Oh I know that. But I was more saying that if everyone in the world should be required to learn the basics of coding regardless of if they hate computers and electronics, then it's kind of unfair when people aren't required to learn to do sports and forced to get a girlfriend.
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2014, 06:22:03 pm »
Oh, then I guess it would be better to get people to learn maths instead of actual programming. Maths are pretty much essential in life, while programming is not. For example, a soccer player might need some minimal math knowledge to perfect his play and strategy, but I doubt he'll need to learn how For, While and Repeat work in order to score a goal.
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2014, 07:04:38 pm »
I didn't really learn how to code in high school (or at least not in the official lessons), bit I did got a few introductionary lessons in Game Maker (the drag&drop part, not the scripting part). I think that they should do this in every school. It isn't really programming, but at least it shows that it's not that hard to 'get computers to listen to you', while witouth it, programming is seen as something 'unobtainable' by many, because they don't have the slightest idea of how to start.

With the car engine example: you wouldn't learn how a full car engine works, but you would learn how basic bechanics works (gears and stuff, which they do teach at high schools)
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2014, 07:49:44 pm »
It depends what part of the world actually. I never learned how gears work in hi school in Quebec. I learned with K'nex :P
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Re: Should everyone learn how to code? Blinky lights and beepy sounds
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2014, 09:17:43 pm »
People should have a basic idea of how computers work, even if it's just the idea that at their core computers just run a bunch of instructions in a sequence. I once had an internship to develop a website for a government organization, and I was basically seen as a wizard doing magic. It's kind of a shame.

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